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Old 19-05-2008, 21:45   #101 (permalink)
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Default Re: Simply as many winners as possible!

St Mirren v Rangers 0-3

Was thinking about this bet all day long, there were alot of pros and a few cons,
but in the end i firmly believed Rangers would grab the last straw, they still have a slim chance at the title

(001) Roma to bt Atalanta @ 1.02 when 2-0 in 72' 509.50
(002) Sevilla to bt Betis @ 1.03 when 2-0 in 73' 524.31
(003) Vejle BK to beat or draw against AB Kobenhavn @ 1.12 579.14
(004) USA to bt Norway @ 1.16 667.17
(005) Mjällby v Örgryte, under 4.5 goals @ 1.06 when 0-1 in 48' 705.20
(006) Bristol City v Crystal Palace, under 4.5 goals @ 1.05 when 0-1 in HT 738.70
(007) Crvena Zvezda to bt Budocnost Banat Dvor @ 1.13/1.14 835.04
(008) Canada to bt Norway @ 1.03 858.84
(009) Spartak Moscow v Saturn Moscow, under 2.5 @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 73' 883.32
(010) Federer to bt Verdasco @ 1.04 when 6-3, 1-1 916.89
(011) Djokovic to bt Montanes @ 1.03 when 6-2, 40-40 943.02
(012) Nadal to bt Moya @ 1.04 when 4-1 978.85
(013) Canada to bt Sweden @ 1.22 when 1-0 in 1st period, 15' 1183.43
(014) Federer to bt Seppi @ 1.07 1262.13
(015) Cardiff v Portsmouth, under 3.5 goals @ 1.02 when 0-1 in 73' 1286.11
(016) Finland to bt Sweden @ 1.02 when 3-0 in 3rd period, 7' 1310.55
(017) Numancia v Alaves, under 2.5 goals @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 70' 1347.90
(018) Rangers to win or draw against St Mirren @ 1.08 1450.34
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Old 19-05-2008, 22:11   #102 (permalink)
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Default Re: Simply as many winners as possible!

Nice one

Why not bank half now and continue with whats left.. Reason I say this is that you have the 1500 figure in your head and I always find that its always hard to cross the 'finish line'.

Your enough at your target, so bank
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Old 20-05-2008, 05:38   #103 (permalink)
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Nice one

Why not bank half now and continue with whats left.. Reason I say this is that you have the 1500 figure in your head and I always find that its always hard to cross the 'finish line'.

Your enough at your target, so bank
Cheers mate

Thanks for the input,
that makes it 2 for "bank half now", and 1 for "keep your original strategy"
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Old 20-05-2008, 08:59   #104 (permalink)
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Regarding banking ,do what you feels right , we dont know your financial situation and it all depends on that really
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Old 20-05-2008, 10:42   #105 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input Mr A, i will take it to 1500 and then decide
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Old 20-05-2008, 19:13   #106 (permalink)
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No bets for today, nothing i fancy
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Old 20-05-2008, 21:01   #107 (permalink)
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(019) Slovakia v Turkey, Under 3.5 goal when 0-1 in 72'
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Old 20-05-2008, 21:02   #108 (permalink)
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(019) Slovakia v Turkey, Under 3.5 goal @ 1.03 when 0-1 in 72'
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Old 20-05-2008, 21:29   #109 (permalink)
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Slovakia v Turkey 0-1

Yes i said there would be no bets tonight, but then i saw
this match live on Betfair video, and fancied the under 3.5 bet

(001) Roma to bt Atalanta @ 1.02 when 2-0 in 72' 509.50
(002) Sevilla to bt Betis @ 1.03 when 2-0 in 73' 524.31
(003) Vejle BK to beat or draw against AB Kobenhavn @ 1.12 579.14
(004) USA to bt Norway @ 1.16 667.17
(005) Mjällby v Örgryte, under 4.5 goals @ 1.06 when 0-1 in 48' 705.20
(006) Bristol City v Crystal Palace, under 4.5 goals @ 1.05 when 0-1 in HT 738.70
(007) Crvena Zvezda to bt Budocnost Banat Dvor @ 1.13/1.14 835.04
(008) Canada to bt Norway @ 1.03 858.84
(009) Spartak Moscow v Saturn Moscow, under 2.5 @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 73' 883.32
(010) Federer to bt Verdasco @ 1.04 when 6-3, 1-1 916.89
(011) Djokovic to bt Montanes @ 1.03 when 6-2, 40-40 943.02
(012) Nadal to bt Moya @ 1.04 when 4-1 978.85
(013) Canada to bt Sweden @ 1.22 when 1-0 in 1st period, 15' 1183.43
(014) Federer to bt Seppi @ 1.07 1262.13
(015) Cardiff v Portsmouth, under 3.5 goals @ 1.02 when 0-1 in 73' 1286.11
(016) Finland to bt Sweden @ 1.02 when 3-0 in 3rd period, 7' 1310.55
(017) Numancia v Alaves, under 2.5 goals @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 70' 1347.90
(018) Rangers to win or draw against St Mirren @ 1.08 1450.34
(019) Slovakia v Turkey, Under 3.5 goal @ 1.03 when 0-1 in 72' 1491.67



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Old 20-05-2008, 21:39   #110 (permalink)
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Creeping closer to the 1500 mark!
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Old 21-05-2008, 07:15   #111 (permalink)
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Creeping closer to the 1500 mark!
Yep, but i will definitely not take just any 1.01 bet and go for it.

It will be a "certain" winner, could be 1.01, could be 1.15, we'll see
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Old 21-05-2008, 08:49   #112 (permalink)
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Great going! You know, it is like seeing myself betting, we have very similar preferencies towards bets. I also cannot see 1+ as a safe bet. About withdrawing, my advice is the following: Stick to a particular sum you would be happy with when withdrawing. Example: you have almost trpiled your bank and decided to cash out 500 euro. that leaves you with 1000 euro. Try to double your bank, then withdraw 500 euro and continue. From 1500 euro, try to reach 2500 euro, then withdraw 500 euro etc. I think the best part is that you decrease the risk every time you reach the next target.

Edit: What was the coef you took the under in Trukey-Slovenia at.

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Old 21-05-2008, 09:35   #113 (permalink)
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Great going! You know, it is like seeing myself betting, we have very similar preferencies towards bets. I also cannot see 1+ as a safe bet. About withdrawing, my advice is the following: Stick to a particular sum you would be happy with when withdrawing. Example: you have almost trpiled your bank and decided to cash out 500 euro. that leaves you with 1000 euro. Try to double your bank, then withdraw 500 euro and continue. From 1500 euro, try to reach 2500 euro, then withdraw 500 euro etc. I think the best part is that you decrease the risk every time you reach the next target.
Cheers mate, thanks for the input

First, my currency is not euro, it is SEK (SwEdish Krona). £1 is roughly 12 SEK. Although i wish it was euro

I really like your idea of decreasing the risk-taking in stages.
That means that the biggest risks is taken in the beginning, when the bank is small, and you are more careful about the bank the larger it gets.
It also means that reaching that particular sum (say 500 SEK) will require fewer and fewer bets the higher we go.
Increase the bank with 1000, split it and bank 500 and add 500 to the "working bank". Excellent stuff.
I will take this under serious consideration after getting to that 1500 mark.

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Edit: What was the coef you took the under in Trukey-Slovenia at.
I don't get this, what is coef? If you mean odds then it was 1.03 as stated in a second quoted post directly after the first

Edit: I see now that the odds was missing from bet 019 in the summary post, i have added it now

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Old 21-05-2008, 09:48   #114 (permalink)
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...or is it really a decrease in risk?

You will bank away a smaller and smaller percentage of the bank, leaving the working bank bigger and bigger (and it is the working bank that is at risk all the time).

I guess one have to find a compromise between banking as much as possible (for safety reasons)
and letting the working bank grow as much as possible (to increase the winnings).

The jury is still out, got to work on this at the almighty Excel to find a balance that is perfect for me
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Old 21-05-2008, 12:27   #115 (permalink)
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(020) Krung Thai Bank to bt Beijing Guon @ 1.01 when 4-0 in 64'
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Old 21-05-2008, 13:03   #116 (permalink)
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Krung Thai Bank v Beijing Guon, 5-3

A little closer than i would have expected but still:

Target reached, bank trebled...!!! And 20 winners on the trot!



(001) Roma to bt Atalanta @ 1.02 when 2-0 in 72' 509.50
(002) Sevilla to bt Betis @ 1.03 when 2-0 in 73' 524.31
(003) Vejle BK to beat or draw against AB Kobenhavn @ 1.12 579.14
(004) USA to bt Norway @ 1.16 667.17
(005) Mjällby v Örgryte, under 4.5 goals @ 1.06 when 0-1 in 48' 705.20
(006) Bristol City v Crystal Palace, under 4.5 goals @ 1.05 when 0-1 in HT 738.70
(007) Crvena Zvezda to bt Budocnost Banat Dvor @ 1.13/1.14 835.04
(008) Canada to bt Norway @ 1.03 858.84
(009) Spartak Moscow v Saturn Moscow, under 2.5 @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 73' 883.32
(010) Federer to bt Verdasco @ 1.04 when 6-3, 1-1 916.89
(011) Djokovic to bt Montanes @ 1.03 when 6-2, 40-40 943.02
(012) Nadal to bt Moya @ 1.04 when 4-1 978.85
(013) Canada to bt Sweden @ 1.22 when 1-0 in 1st period, 15' 1183.43
(014) Federer to bt Seppi @ 1.07 1262.13
(015) Cardiff v Portsmouth, under 3.5 goals @ 1.02 when 0-1 in 73' 1286.11
(016) Finland to bt Sweden @ 1.02 when 3-0 in 3rd period, 7' 1310.55
(017) Numancia v Alaves, under 2.5 goals @ 1.03 when 0-0 in 70' 1347.90
(018) Rangers to win or draw against St Mirren @ 1.08 1450.34
(019) Slovakia v Turkey, Under 3.5 goal @ 1.03 when 0-1 in 72' 1491.67
(020) Krung Thai Bank to bt Beijing Guon @ 1.01 when 4-0 in 64' 1505.84
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Old 21-05-2008, 13:20   #117 (permalink)
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Numerical example: number in brackets is the total odds you would have to generate with your bets.

Starting bank 100
Goal 300 (3); withdraw 100; profit 0
Bank 200
Goal 400 (2); withdraw 100; profit 100
Bank 300
Goal 500 (1.66); withraw 100; profit 200
Bank 400
Goal 600 (1.5); withdraw 100; profit 300
Bank 500
Goal 700 Let's say you fail here. You have 300 net profit.

If you were to let everything in, you would have increased your starting bank almost 15 times. But if you don't withdraw in a case of a failure you are in loss of 100. The bad thing about this is that you never know which bet will lose. I don't know how long have you been playing but I can say that I have seen everything after I lost "lay 7 goals" in a game which needed to see 2 goals in injury time to make my bet a losing one. And just like you I had played it live.
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Old 21-05-2008, 13:27   #118 (permalink)
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Thanks for the example Kef!

The only thing i know for sure is that i will bank away 500 SEK.
(I will not "cash out"/withdraw, the money will still remain in the system but not in the working/running bank)
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So, time to summarize the story so far!

It has been fun so far, and not so difficult as i expected at first.
Discipline has once again shown to be the key to success.
Not rushing into anything just to make the quick buck.

I have also felt much better about my bets when i had the chance to watch the matches
live before placing the bets, you get a better feel for it.

I will bank away 500 SEK and continue with the rest.
I still haven't decided about the banking strategy, we'll see later!

Number of bets: 20
Events watched live pre-bet: 12
Highest odd: 1.22
Lowest odd: 1.01
Average odd: 1.061
Number of days: 11
Avg bets per day: 1.8

Safe bank: 500 SEK
Running bank: 1005.84
Total bank: 1505.84
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(021) Davydenko to bt Isner @ 1.03 when 3-0
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