glceud+Philossify+runadrum+borokp all win $13,000 WSOP Main Event Packages

[GotaFancy?]

If the intent was for 200 seats, and they have removed some to take it well below the 200 seats, then they must be intending to open up the promo again? As I've said, I dont really believe the intent was for 200 seats - that's the number I think they've gone with when they've realised what's happening

[ColU_FC]

Originally Posted by glceud

Shared ISP's would explain some of the removees (did gaz and girlfriend sign up together?)

I think everest have been as open as possible about this and appear to be honouring $140,000+ of entries which is not an inconsiderable ammount.
The only figure we dont have is the ammount of seats they intended offering in the first place.

So withdrawing someone's tournament entry and closing their account

and giving as a reason that they have multiple accounts when in fact they and their partner each their own account

and the site's T&Cs don't say that partners can't have their own individual accounts

is being open?

[glceud]

Originally Posted by ColU_FC

So withdrawing someone's tournament entry and closing their account

and giving as a reason that they have multiple accounts when in fact they and their partner each their own account

and the site's T&Cs don't say that partners can't have their own individual accounts

is being open?

2.1 Right of Refusal. Management reserves the right to refuse to allow any person to play games or make use of the software or servers without giving any reason for so refusing.

They have at least given you some sort of reason even though you dont agree. And they have told any one trying to join since the promotion has ended and they did close it and explain why pretty darned quick.

2.3 Individuals Only. Player must play as an individual. Each Player is only allowed to have one account. Any Player determined to be playing as part of a professional or coordinated syndicate, playing on multiple accounts, or in any way in collusion with another Player will be banned, all winnings will be void and all funds in Player's Account will be forfeited.

Now while you and the Mrs may play in completely different rooms and not discuss what is happening in any way I am sure there are many out there that would, and indeed do abuse the facility to play in the same tourneys or at the same cash tables. In fact lets be honest about it if you were still in a tourney of this magnitude at bubble time and one of your mates was still in too would you not be just a wee bit tempted to share information? I would prefer to play at a site that operated like this than one that didnt.
I guess they could have let you keep your account but not let you play in the same tournies.

As I said I am amazed that you can play in the same tournies anywere using the same ISP, that of course is not to say there arent people using MSN or telephones to stay in contact at crucial moments anyway.

[ColU_FC]

Fair enough mate, I follow your reasoning.

I don't agree with you but that's life, however, I do respect the fact that you make a reasoned arguement.

[heniek31]

I cant be bothered with this no more (and I have $60 there).
I only opened this account on Thu and maybe all that crap beacuse I is Pole. I will veryfy my account on Monday though. Oh, and I sent two emails two days ago and no reply .

[GotaFancy?]

I dont see how they would know you're a lamppost (erm...Pole ) - you're a UK resident and I presume you applied with your UK address. A "foreign sounding name" means nothing....

Agree with glceud on not allowing the same ISPs in the same tournament, however can understand how harsh this sounds to couples (and suspect genuine cheats will have no problem getting around it - 2 x PCs next to one another can easily have totally unrelated IP addresses.

I dont feel we've had particularly good communication from Everest though - they've accepted full culpability, but not really gone into what the error was and how it went so wrong The only official word (I dont believe or trust anything customer service reps from any poker company say - they do genuinely seem to get it wrong more often than they get it right) is what is on the Inside Poker website

Prior to running the promotion InsidePoker was informed by Everest Poker there was no limit on reader eligibility beyond the tournament capacity of 2000.
However, once the promotion went live Everest revealed they had placed a limit on reader entrants

This doesn't say anything about an error - just that they changed their minds. There is no reasoning offered though as to why they changed their minds

[BillHicks]

Originally Posted by jomell

Dear Curtis,

Thank you for your inquiry. There was a limited to the number of players
eligible for this promotion and due to an oversight on our part, that
limit was not communicated to the magazine. This limit was exceeded and
we were unfortunately forced to end the promotion early.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Regards,


Everest Poker

That would seem to imply that the 170 odd who are in at the moment are going to get to play they just aren't leting any more freerollers in. 170 K would be not that much to write off as a mistake to a Poker site that can sponsor the WSOP.

I thought it was pretty usual for sites not to allow more than 1 player from the same address - didnt that guy Mark Teltscher lose a huge win in a Pokerstars event when his "sister" won it?

[eyesallin]

And this is what they said:

Thank you for your inquiry.
There was a limit to the number of players eligible for this promotion and due to an oversight on our part, that limit was not communicated to the magazine. This limit was exceeded and we were unfortunately forced to end the promotion early.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Regards,
Everest Poker

Fair dues I suppose, but mistakes should not happen.

[GotaFancy?]

Originally Posted by eyesallin

And this is what they said:

Thank you for your inquiry.
There was a limit to the number of players eligible for this promotion and due to an oversight on our part, that limit was not communicated to the magazine. This limit was exceeded and we were unfortunately forced to end the promotion early.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Regards,
Everest Poker

Fair dues I suppose, but mistakes should not happen.

That's different to the IP statement.

The IP Statement says that Everest specifically said that there was no limit on numbers, but that once the promo went live a limit was then imposed and informed.

What they are trying to tell you is that the limit was always there, just that they never told anyone.

That's quite a significant difference (IMO) - though of course the end result is the same...

[Football-Tipper]

So how many do westill have in this?

I'm still in

[Fonzie14]

Originally Posted by Football-Tipper

So how many do westill have in this?

I'm still in

Just checked, I'm still in.

[Adetrick]

At the moment, I reckon we have 28 out of the 175.

Jolly
Adetrick
AJCairns (AJ?)
BoroKP
Dave488
Dreamkiller
Fonzie
F-tipper
GazBlades
Gazza
GeordiGaz
Gilsan
Glceud
Goater
Steveo
Happyhornet
Griff
Julioarca
Morls
MrsColU
PistonBroke
PLGilly
Strider
Washy
Reeshah
Runadrum
SKVillan
SpannerJ

[GotaFancy?]

AJCairns is legendkiller

28 would suggest between 2 and 3 WSOP ME packages for PL Hopefully there are a few more too that you havent recognised

[equinoxx]

I'd like to hope there is an acknowledgement of this in a future issue of IP.

Everest got good publicity from all of this in some eyes. A majority of the readers are going to be unaware of what really happened and I think IP has a bit of a duty to let others know what really went down. Putting this information on the website is a cop-out. Not all readers will go there.

If Everest can let customers down on this one issue who is to say they won't do it again?

[AlunB]

It's not a cop out mate, it was our only option.

The promotion went pear-shaped on Thursday. We sent the next issue to the printers the day before.

We will put something in the following issue, but that will only get to readers in about 6 weeks time.

As to Gaf's point, I think they are one and the same thing. Telling us the wrong info is a human error as I think glceud mentioned on the previous page.

I hope nobody thinks I'm treating this lightly or that I am not extremely dissapointed by the situation. And I sympathise with those who missed out. But I do understand mistakes happen.

[morlspin]

Originally Posted by AlunB

It's not a cop out mate, it was our only option.

The promotion went pear-shaped on Thursday. We sent the next issue to the printers the day before.

We will put something in the following issue, but that will only get to readers in about 6 weeks time.

As to Gaf's point, I think they are one and the same thing. Telling us the wrong info is a human error as I think glceud mentioned on the previous page.

I hope nobody thinks I'm treating this lightly or that I am not extremely dissapointed by the situation. And I sympathise with those who missed out. But I do understand mistakes happen.

Alun

Will there be anything put in place for the readers who have missed out on this? A compensation based freeroll?

May not make up for the fact that they are missing out on a massive freebie, but could go a long way to restore some faith.

Graeme

[SteveO]

Surely the blame here is totally Everest and not Inside Edge. All the magazine can do is to have faith in their affiliates that they will honour any promotion that goes to press.

Hehe Inside Edge I meant Inside Poker of course.

[morlspin]

Originally Posted by Steve'O

Surely the blame here is totally Everest and not Inside Edge. All the magazine can do is to have faith in their affiliates that they will honour any promotion that goes to press.

I dont wanna lay the blame on either of them, im in the hope that Everest are gonna sort something out and that IP are gonna sort it out too.

But if the people who were booted out of the tourney or the people who never got a chance dont get something in the way of a freebie off either, its pretty bad form IMO

[dili123in]

Originally Posted by Adetrick

At the moment, I reckon we have 28 out of the 175.

Jolly
Adetrick
AJCairns (AJ?)
BoroKP
Dave488
Dreamkiller
Fonzie
F-tipper
GazBlades
Gazza
GeordiGaz
Gilsan
Glceud
Goater
Steveo
Happyhornet
Griff
Julioarca
Morls
MrsColU
PistonBroke
PLGilly
Strider
Washy
Reeshah
Runadrum
SKVillan
SpannerJ

iam still in -dili123in

[ColU_FC]

As I understand it, those PLers (or close relations/friends/family pets et al) booted out so far are:

heniek31
ColU_FC
GazBlades girlfriend
AvonGirl