Six Nations 2008

[Pie-chucker]

Grrrrr... Ireland. No weather excuses, nothing.

England performance is 78-83 with spin and they'll need 3 tries and the win to go significantly over.

0.25pts SELL Eng perf @ 78

[SteveO]

Unreal won one teh Italy match and then lost on my advised bet in the Welsh match. Never been so chuffed to lose a bet in my life though.

[TheRat]

Well, well, well
I had to listen to the game, but sounded like we were cruising for a big win then lost the plot completely in the last half hour. Ridiculous
My bank is now at 90pts.

How did Luke (Narraway) play?

[Pie-chucker]

Narraway - ex King's School, Worcester - mainly anonymous.

Balshaw will get panned for the winning try. Lee Byrne 15 for Wales was very solid. My MoM, but Hook got it. Any sniff of any Wales bet looked Titanically sunk at half-time. Strange game, but a bit better than the Croke Park crap.

[TheRat]

I went to Primary School and he actually went to the Chantry for a few years, same as me, the went to Kings in Yr 9 I think it was
Lived next door to him too.

[Wumpking]

Still can't quite work out how Wales won that match, particularly with the amount of ball they were losing to turnovers in the first half. England seemed to fall apart completely in the second half. Game got loose, which played straight into Wales' favour. I lost money, but what a fantastic result.

[downjag]

Was England's defeat such a shock - personally I don't think so. People criticised 13 players being picked from a very successful European Ospreys outfit - why? Very foolish in my opinion. The guys proved they were up to international standard.
I know this is very easy after the event, but England are rebuilding as are other teams. They had no divine right to win this game.

[SteveO]

Originally Posted by Wumpking

Still can't quite work out how Wales won that match, particularly with the amount of ball they were losing to turnovers in the first half. England seemed to fall apart completely in the second half. Game got loose, which played straight into Wales' favour. I lost money, but what a fantastic result.

I layed off at HT my original stake which I as
always do but could never envisage what would happen in the 2nd half
.

[TheRat]

Originally Posted by downjag

Was England's defeat such a shock - personally I don't think so. People criticised 13 players being picked from a very successful European Ospreys outfit - why? Very foolish in my opinion. The guys proved they were up to international standard.
I know this is very easy after the event, but England are rebuilding as are other teams. They had no divine right to win this game.

Like wumpking said, I think England lost it rather than Wales winning it to be honest. Was a shock in the fact it was at Twickenham, but it was never going to be easy. Certain people were saying England by 30-40 points etc which is garbage really. I was worried about the 14.5 handicap I chose, and now with hindsight it was a poor bet!

[whycantistayawayfromdogs]

Originally Posted by TheRat

Like wumpking said, I think England lost it rather than Wales winning it to be honest. Was a shock in the fact it was at Twickenham, but it was never going to be easy. Certain people were saying England by 30-40 points etc which is garbage really. I was worried about the 14.5 handicap I chose, and now with hindsight it was a poor bet!

if england were a good team they would have been up by 25-30 at half time...they werent, and wales had more oomph in the second half. Tell ya what tho, a wales of old would never have had the discipline to keep the ball in the england 22 (70-78 mins) for that long.

COMON!!!!!!

[bartonbank]

Originally Posted by downjag

Was England's defeat such a shock - personally I don't think so. People criticised 13 players being picked from a very successful European Ospreys outfit - why? Very foolish in my opinion. The guys proved they were up to international standard.
.

To be fair we improved after some non Osprey players came on. Jenkins steadied the front three because Jones was getting dicked there, Popham was unlucky not to start the game and Shanklin was far steadier in the middle.
As a Welshman even I recognise that we burgled that game as England should have been out of sight by half time. Their error in the second half appeared to be trying to play a different type of game from the first half, failing miserably and then panicking....summed up by the Wilkinson pass to Cipriani in the English 22.

[Wumpking]

Originally Posted by whycantistayawayfromdogs

wales of old would never have had the discipline to keep the ball in the england 22 (70-78 mins) for that long.

Too true!

I must admit I was screaming at Phillips to get the ball back to Hook for a drop goal attempt to put Wales 2 scores up. Didn't have enough faith

[aliando]

Originally Posted by Wumpking

Too true!

I must admit I was screaming at Phillips to get the ball back to Hook for a drop goal attempt to put Wales 2 scores up. Didn't have enough faith

you werent alone

[gazzyg]

Yet again an England team found wanting when it comes to open play and converting chances. Been the case for many years now and the good fortune of making the World Cup final on the back of probably one decent performance v the Aussies papered over the cracks and gave the old boys network the chance to plaster our media with how good a team they now were. Pretty similar to the footy boys who thought they simply had to turn up and comfortably beat Croatia for the expected qualification. Bookies must love the English media, they do all their donkey work for them and they'll be sleeping sound tonight with inflated bank balances after that one finshed all the day's bets, triple crown bets and grand slams.
Probably still won't deter from predicting a 40pt hammering of Italy next week.

[Pie-chucker]

With the sun on their backs in say, Marseille, and the verve of new coach and reconstructed side, you'd think that France would see off this earnest (but not a great deal more) Scottish lot fairly comfortably. But at wet and windy Murrayfield one has to wonder. It's a bit of a leap of faith, but...

10pts France -4 @ evens

[davidmphill]

Waited 20 years for Wales to win at Twickenham, finally been achieved. That on top of the Grand Slam is what I wanted to see Wales achieve in Rugby. For Football I just want us to qualify for a major tournament in my lifetime but that seems way off, enjoy it while I can. Great result and totally unexpected for me. Gatland, resign now you can do no more!

[Pie-chucker]

Eggs, one basket.

0.5 pts BUY shirt numbers Fra/Scot @ 7

Rougerie with 22 on his back to go over in last 5 mins

[Charlie Wong]

Scotland vs France

Always tricky when betting on France, they can be sublime or sub-standard, just depends on the day, like England, the French are re-building under new coach Marc Lievremont, 6 new faces amongst the 22 man squad will all be eager to impress. Scotland on the other hand have left out impressive goal kicker, Chris Paterson - they may miss his pts haul and experience.

France capable of overturning the -5.5 hc

10pts WIN @ 2.16 Betfair

[NIGEL2611]

Scotland v France

Generally I have approved of what Frank Hadden has done with the Scottish side but he may of dropped a clanger in not starting with Chris Patterson.
Scotland won't be pretty but I do think this is their best chance for some time to win some silver ware. They have some big aggressive forwards who are in your face and some solid backs who may lack the flair of their opponents but are more than capable of crossing the gain line. This is why I think they are great value still at 10/1 to win the Six Nations outright and I also believe that each country in this Tournament will lose at least once.
I would also like to say well done to my Welsh friends for there win yesterday, you beat an English team who put up one of the worst second half displays ever seen on the international stage! But that shouldn't detract from what the Welsh achieved. My only question to the welsh supporters is "Do you think this was a better playing performance than the one in Cardiff last year? I was there and for me it wasn't!
The English have issues! Especially in the leadership department Phil Vickery is not a captain and there do not seem to be any deputies to stand by him! When you look at the World Cup Winners of 2003 you had Martin Johnson in charge supported by the likes of Jason Leonard, Lawrence Dallaglio, Jason Robinson & Richard Hill all potential captains in their own right.
I think the French out of all the nations have done the right thing, they are building for the future and for this reason I am happy to watch them for the time being and not put any money on them.

[TheRat]

Originally Posted by Sir Fernando

Scotland vs France

Always tricky when betting on France, they can be sublime or sub-standard, just depends on the day, like England, the French are re-building under new coach Marc Lievremont, 6 new faces amongst the 22 man squad will all be eager to impress. Scotland on the other hand have left out impressive goal kicker, Chris Paterson - they may miss his pts haul and experience.

France capable of overturning the -5.5 hc

10pts WIN @ 2.16 Betfair

Exactly the same bet for me. This is value imo. France are rebuilding but the WC semi finalists should still have too much for Scotland, and this is only a 2 penalty margin. No idea why Patterson is not starting as you would have thought penalties are Scotlands best chance here.