ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May - Page 2 - The Punters Lounge

Big Alf · 13-05-2008, 11:49

Had a nice start with Starace though Lodra was a complete dog.

Have layed Davy as he's usually good for a trade. Also layed Djokavitch, Ferrer and wawrinka - no solid reasons - just a mix of possible fatigue/injury/one eye on RG/hunch etc etc...!

iluvsportsbetting · 13-05-2008, 13:34

Moya v Benneteau. Will be interesting to see Moya in this one. He's on a very poor run lately losing all 3 of his matches so far in the European clay season. But I can't help but look at what he did here last year, reaching the semis beating Berdych, Blake and Djokovic and taking a set off Federer. Also last year he start the European clay season poorly (not as bad as this year) before being very strong here and at the French. Don't write him off just yet! Benneteau seems in pretty average form, but he did come through qualifying. This could be a decent match up for Moya to get back some form, but just touching 1.55 doesn't appeal too much.

Robredo v Kohlschreiber. This one seems to be about scheduling. Tommy has had a lot of matches lately including a couple of final set breakers and could be due a flat performance. However, wouldn't expect it to come here - the scene of his greatest success winning the title in 2006. He lost first match last year to Almagro (really tough draw!) and should be looking to make amends this year. Kohlschreiber pulled out of Munich with a respitory infection and I've got no idea how he is physically. At home could be a decent price for the German but don't rule out Tommy. Quite fancy 3 sets so laying whoever wins the first set could be profitable.

I took Moya on your advice

after that success i've taken Robredo as hes just gone down a set! I fancied him from the start to be honest so pleased now about my enhanced value!

Bet-Master · 13-05-2008, 15:30

Tip Detail

Sport	Tennis
Event	Delic A. - Gonzalez S.
Selection	Gonzalez S.
Strength	10/10
Date	13/05/2008
Bookmaker/Price	5Dimes @ 2.35 (Back)
Reasoning	Well, why Gonzalez is underdog? He is 363 in ATP Entry, Delic is 143, so what? Gonzalez has already beaten him and he was in Last 4 Round in San Lois Potosi (win over Bellucci, Armando and Stadler) on clay, and Delic will play only second game on clay this season. Besides, Delic is gonna take part in Rolan Garros qualification next week,and he should think about to go to Europe very soon. So, it's a value for me - play Gonzalez and good luck!

aldric · 13-05-2008, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Intensity

Gasquet v Seppi. Gasquet has had a couple of shockers lately, but I don't think that's an indicator of long term form. Going well in the doubles last week should have helped him get some match practice and get over the losses. Watched Seppi batter Berrer today but not convinced as the German was shocking. I think this is a good match up for Seppi and if he comes in with any form then this should be like target practice for Gasquet. Price is very inflated because and Gasquets form and to be honest I think he short be shorter.

Gasquet was simply awful, he seems to have lost all confidence....

Worth opposing him whoever he is playing at the moment.

Mr Intensity · 13-05-2008, 22:05

Thoughts for Wednesday.....

Berdych v Safin. Very interesting match here, mainly because they met a few weeks ago in Davis Cup. Safin won that after coming back from 2 sets down and it probably should have been more comfortable for him as he wasted a massive number of break points in the first hour sets. Berych injured his ankle in the reverse singles against Davydenko and hasn't played since. That's a worry as we are now deep into the clay season will all the guys having a few matches unser there belt. Safin has done well this tournament coming through qualies and then beating Cilic - importantly I feel his performances seem to be getting better. He could just be finding form again and with Berdych's lack of match Safin has to be the call at odds against. Slight concern with this being first match up an Safin traditionally isn't a fan of early matches but that's not enough to put me off.

Acasuso v Montanes. Got to look at the H2H here, 6-0 to Acasuso and the last 5 have been straight sets hammerings. Montanes had a decent week in Barcelona reaching the quarters before losing a tight one against Wawrinka but asn't shown much consistancy this season. Acasuso has generally been in better form this year but has struggled the past few weeks. However, you'd expect the conditions in Hamburg to suit him and that is reflected in his 7-2 record in this tournament. Getting over 1.5 looks very reasonable.

Blake v Tipsarevic. Very close int he betting and that seems fair. Both these guys have a lot of fight and expect this to be long. No idea who'll come through but expect 3 sets so lay whoever wins the first set would seem to be a decent call.

Robredo v Karlovic. Tommy came through a big battle with Kohlschreiber and after the amount of tennis he's played the past few weeks might struggle a little. He struggles against big servers (and yeah I still thought he'd beat Roddick last week) and that shows in the H2H 2-0 to Karlovic including losing in this tournament in 2004. Karlovic looked to be playing OK last week, and you know exactly what you'll be up against with him - if he brings it I think he takes this down. 2.62 at a few bookies seems reasonable.

Big Alf · 13-05-2008, 22:23

Gasquet compounded an absolute stinker of a day today

Good feeling about tomorrow though

Also going to go with Karlovic and Safin. And also like the look of Kiefer @3.1

This is going to be Stan's 13th game in 16 days, surely something has to give sooner or later. If Kiefer doesnt let the match get away from him early doors and gets the crowd behind him, I can see Wawrinka looking to get out of there quick sharpish!

Mr Intensity · 13-05-2008, 22:27

Aye, thought about Kiefer for the reasons you say. Also at home and looked good against Mathieu. Problem is Wawrinka is on a big roll and has just hit the top 10, think he'll be pretty tough to beat. I'd reccommend taking Kiefer at a 1 ball or at least a 1 set bookie, as there's a chance Stan is still struggling with his back.

Good luck with Kiefer

yobinad · 14-05-2008, 00:34

ATP Hamburgo – Pares
T.Robredo/L.Paes – J.Erlich/Andy Ram
Pick: 2 Unidades 1.60

if someone is interested in a portuguese explanation about these pick, visit:
http://apostadesonho.com.sapo.pt/BOAS%20PICKS.html

harke · 14-05-2008, 06:56

marion bartoli paying good odds!!!playing against RAZZANO Virginie...should i go for it???pls guys help me out....

Bet-Master · 14-05-2008, 08:03

Tip Detail

Sport	Tennis
Event	Berdych T. vs Safin M.
Selection	Safin M.
Strength	10/10
Date	14/05/2008
Bookmaker/Price	Blue Square @ 2.00 (Back)
Reasoning	Berdych will play first match after right ankle injury, ahd I think, his form is not good in th moment. Besides, he has already lost to Safin this season in Moskow, and Marat had 3 strong victories here over Reister, Korolev and Cilic. In his last match against Cilic he hasn't even lost a serve (despite 8 bp Cilic had), and Safin's motivation is very high in Hamburg - Marat need to play on clay before Rolan Garros. So, in his condition Berdych can't win, I think. Play Safin and good luck!

KONG · 14-05-2008, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bet-Master

Tip Detail

Sport	Tennis
Event	Berdych T. vs Safin M.
Selection	Safin M.
Strength	10/10
Date	14/05/2008
Bookmaker/Price	Blue Square @ 2.00 (Back)
Reasoning	Berdych will play first match after right ankle injury, ahd I think, his form is not good in th moment. Besides, he has already lost to Safin this season in Moskow, and Marat had 3 strong victories here over Reister, Korolev and Cilic. In his last match against Cilic he hasn't even lost a serve (despite 8 bp Cilic had), and Safin's motivation is very high in Hamburg - Marat need to play on clay before Rolan Garros. So, in his condition Berdych can't win, I think. Play Safin and good luck!

How did your other matches go ?

Bet-Master · 14-05-2008, 10:12

Tip Detail

Sport	Tennis
Event	Moya C. vs Rochus O.
Selection	Rochus O.
Strength	10/10
Date	14/05/2008
Bookmaker/Price	Sportingbet @ 3.00 (Back)
Reasoning	Moya don't want to play tennis at the moment. 4 lost matches in a row, then dramatic win over Benneteau, who poor on clay. Carlos lost his serve 4 times (and 12 bp overall Benneteau had). Yes, Rochus is not well on clay either, but he is fighting here for the every point (he saved 15 of 18 (!!!) bp against Naso in first round). And Moya is not fighter IMO. I think, it will be strong clash between these two men, but Rochus will win due to his strong-willed qualities. Or Moya will lose in 2 sets...

Bet-Master · 14-05-2008, 10:13

Quote:

How did your other matches go ?

My other matches - 5 of 5...WIN.

KONG · 14-05-2008, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bet-Master

My other matches - 5 of 5...WIN.

Yeah, looks good.. Might follow you in the next match

Big Alf · 14-05-2008, 21:30

First good day in a while today going 5-1, got a feeling tomorrow is going to be a different story altogether though!

Andy Murray @ 6.4

Surprised by these odds. Murray is looking to further build on two confidence boosting results against Tursenov and Simon who are no walkovers. There is no doubt Nadal is struggling with his fitness at the moment, and Murray definitely has the mettle to take him where Starace failed to today.

Ivo Karlovich @ 6.2

A shot to nothing really this one. Djoko hasnt had much of a break in the last week or so but he hasnt exactly been pushed to the limit. I just feel that if Ivo can bring his A service game then Djoko might decide his priorities lie elsewhere...

Alize Cornet @ 3.6

This girl just seems to keep pulling out results left right and centre. Two semi final appearences on clay so far this year. No reason not to take the plunge really!

GL tomorrow all

Mr Intensity · 14-05-2008, 22:49

Just got in from a match and not in a good mood. Not going to look into tomorrows matches.

Good luck guys

Crazy North · 15-05-2008, 12:03

Sport	Tennis
Event	Nadal-Murray
Selection	Murray +5.5 games handicap
Strength	10/10
Date	15/05/2008
Bookmaker/Price	Gamebookers @ 1.85 (Back)
Reasoning	Going here on Murray as i believe that he can keep this one close and Nadal is not playing his best lately and he looks little bit tired.Murray beat Tursunov and Simon easily in two sets while Nadal had a lot of troubles with Starace 6-4,7-6.This offer is just to good not to take.

Crazy North · 15-05-2008, 12:03

Sport	Tennis
Event	Safin-Moya
Selection	Moya
Strength	10/10
Date	15/05/2008
Bookmaker/Price	BetDirect @ 2.25 (Back)
Reasoning	Going here on experienced player like Moya and i believe that he can do the job here by beating Safin who is not anything special.Moya is experienced clay player and i believe in his win here.

Crazy North · 15-05-2008, 12:04

Sport	Tennis
Event	Kuznetsova-Cornet
Selection	Over 19.5 games
Strength	10/10
Date	15/05/2008
Bookmaker/Price	Fonbet @ 1.90 (Back)
Reasoning	Here i like Cornet but i will try with an over as that bet seems lot better for me and line is too low as bookies underestimate a lot Cornet here.Kuznetsova is not in great form and RG is coming so she probably wont push too much.

koloino · 15-05-2008, 12:58

Pironkova T. v Azarenka V.

15/05/2008 15:00

In my opinion this Pironkova will go out victoriously from this “fight”. From where such high course on it, I do not know. In my opinion this promotions from the side Bwin Azarenka had easy adversaries how till now. HoweverPironkova won already with the better rivals: Zakopalova and Ivanovic. Today's meeting will not be easy, but I judge that this Pironova will go out victoriously Is very manly and has " heart” to the game.

pick 1
odds 3.6
stake 3/10
Bwin

13-05-2008, 11:49	#21 (permalink)
Big Alf Senior Punter Join Date: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 112	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May Had a nice start with Starace though Lodra was a complete dog. Have layed Davy as he's usually good for a trade. Also layed Djokavitch, Ferrer and wawrinka - no solid reasons - just a mix of possible fatigue/injury/one eye on RG/hunch etc etc...!

13-05-2008, 13:34	#22 (permalink)
iluvsportsbetting Semi Pro Punter Join Date: 18 Sep 2007 Location: Edinburgh/Athens Posts: 82	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May Moya v Benneteau. Will be interesting to see Moya in this one. He's on a very poor run lately losing all 3 of his matches so far in the European clay season. But I can't help but look at what he did here last year, reaching the semis beating Berdych, Blake and Djokovic and taking a set off Federer. Also last year he start the European clay season poorly (not as bad as this year) before being very strong here and at the French. Don't write him off just yet! Benneteau seems in pretty average form, but he did come through qualifying. This could be a decent match up for Moya to get back some form, but just touching 1.55 doesn't appeal too much. Robredo v Kohlschreiber. This one seems to be about scheduling. Tommy has had a lot of matches lately including a couple of final set breakers and could be due a flat performance. However, wouldn't expect it to come here - the scene of his greatest success winning the title in 2006. He lost first match last year to Almagro (really tough draw!) and should be looking to make amends this year. Kohlschreiber pulled out of Munich with a respitory infection and I've got no idea how he is physically. At home could be a decent price for the German but don't rule out Tommy. Quite fancy 3 sets so laying whoever wins the first set could be profitable. I took Moya on your advice after that success i've taken Robredo as hes just gone down a set! I fancied him from the start to be honest so pleased now about my enhanced value!

13-05-2008, 22:05	#25 (permalink)
Mr Intensity Mens Doubles Punter Join Date: 21 Dec 2003 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Age: 24 Posts: 9,019	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May Thoughts for Wednesday..... Berdych v Safin. Very interesting match here, mainly because they met a few weeks ago in Davis Cup. Safin won that after coming back from 2 sets down and it probably should have been more comfortable for him as he wasted a massive number of break points in the first hour sets. Berych injured his ankle in the reverse singles against Davydenko and hasn't played since. That's a worry as we are now deep into the clay season will all the guys having a few matches unser there belt. Safin has done well this tournament coming through qualies and then beating Cilic - importantly I feel his performances seem to be getting better. He could just be finding form again and with Berdych's lack of match Safin has to be the call at odds against. Slight concern with this being first match up an Safin traditionally isn't a fan of early matches but that's not enough to put me off. Acasuso v Montanes. Got to look at the H2H here, 6-0 to Acasuso and the last 5 have been straight sets hammerings. Montanes had a decent week in Barcelona reaching the quarters before losing a tight one against Wawrinka but asn't shown much consistancy this season. Acasuso has generally been in better form this year but has struggled the past few weeks. However, you'd expect the conditions in Hamburg to suit him and that is reflected in his 7-2 record in this tournament. Getting over 1.5 looks very reasonable. Blake v Tipsarevic. Very close int he betting and that seems fair. Both these guys have a lot of fight and expect this to be long. No idea who'll come through but expect 3 sets so lay whoever wins the first set would seem to be a decent call. Robredo v Karlovic. Tommy came through a big battle with Kohlschreiber and after the amount of tennis he's played the past few weeks might struggle a little. He struggles against big servers (and yeah I still thought he'd beat Roddick last week) and that shows in the H2H 2-0 to Karlovic including losing in this tournament in 2004. Karlovic looked to be playing OK last week, and you know exactly what you'll be up against with him - if he brings it I think he takes this down. 2.62 at a few bookies seems reasonable. __________________ I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts - as support rather than illumination. (Andrew Lang) Everyone thought Einstein was crazy until he started kicking ass.

13-05-2008, 22:23	#26 (permalink)
Big Alf Senior Punter Join Date: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 112	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May Gasquet compounded an absolute stinker of a day today Good feeling about tomorrow though Also going to go with Karlovic and Safin. And also like the look of Kiefer @3.1 This is going to be Stan's 13th game in 16 days, surely something has to give sooner or later. If Kiefer doesnt let the match get away from him early doors and gets the crowd behind him, I can see Wawrinka looking to get out of there quick sharpish! Last edited by Big Alf; 13-05-2008 at 22:24.

13-05-2008, 22:27	#27 (permalink)
Mr Intensity Mens Doubles Punter Join Date: 21 Dec 2003 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Age: 24 Posts: 9,019	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May Aye, thought about Kiefer for the reasons you say. Also at home and looked good against Mathieu. Problem is Wawrinka is on a big roll and has just hit the top 10, think he'll be pretty tough to beat. I'd reccommend taking Kiefer at a 1 ball or at least a 1 set bookie, as there's a chance Stan is still struggling with his back. Good luck with Kiefer __________________ I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts - as support rather than illumination. (Andrew Lang) Everyone thought Einstein was crazy until he started kicking ass.

14-05-2008, 00:34	#28 (permalink)
yobinad Banned Join Date: 05 May 2008 Posts: 5	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May ATP Hamburgo – Pares T.Robredo/L.Paes – J.Erlich/Andy Ram Pick: 2 Unidades 1.60 if someone is interested in a portuguese explanation about these pick, visit: http://apostadesonho.com.sapo.pt/BOAS%20PICKS.html

14-05-2008, 06:56	#29 (permalink)
harke not jst a dreamer!!! Join Date: 02 Oct 2007 Location: an island down south Posts: 184	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May marion bartoli paying good odds!!!playing against RAZZANO Virginie...should i go for it???pls guys help me out....

14-05-2008, 21:30	#35 (permalink)
Big Alf Senior Punter Join Date: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 112	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May First good day in a while today going 5-1, got a feeling tomorrow is going to be a different story altogether though! Andy Murray @ 6.4 Surprised by these odds. Murray is looking to further build on two confidence boosting results against Tursenov and Simon who are no walkovers. There is no doubt Nadal is struggling with his fitness at the moment, and Murray definitely has the mettle to take him where Starace failed to today. Ivo Karlovich @ 6.2 A shot to nothing really this one. Djoko hasnt had much of a break in the last week or so but he hasnt exactly been pushed to the limit. I just feel that if Ivo can bring his A service game then Djoko might decide his priorities lie elsewhere... Alize Cornet @ 3.6 This girl just seems to keep pulling out results left right and centre. Two semi final appearences on clay so far this year. No reason not to take the plunge really! GL tomorrow all

14-05-2008, 22:49	#36 (permalink)
Mr Intensity Mens Doubles Punter Join Date: 21 Dec 2003 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Age: 24 Posts: 9,019	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May Just got in from a match and not in a good mood. Not going to look into tomorrows matches. Good luck guys __________________ I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts - as support rather than illumination. (Andrew Lang) Everyone thought Einstein was crazy until he started kicking ass.

15-05-2008, 12:58	#40 (permalink)
koloino Senior Punter Join Date: 10 May 2008 Location: Poland Age: 23 Posts: 115	Re: ATP Hamburg & WTA Rome 11th-18th May Pironkova T. v Azarenka V. 15/05/2008 15:00 In my opinion this Pironkova will go out victoriously from this “fight”. From where such high course on it, I do not know. In my opinion this promotions from the side Bwin Azarenka had easy adversaries how till now. HoweverPironkova won already with the better rivals: Zakopalova and Ivanovic. Today's meeting will not be easy, but I judge that this Pironova will go out victoriously Is very manly and has " heart” to the game. pick 1 odds 3.6 stake 3/10 Bwin __________________ picks - 44, win - 25, lose - 19 \|Placed units 220\|Won units 241,16\|Yield +9.62% Last edited by koloino; 15-05-2008 at 12:58.

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