Royal Ascot 19/06/08

[JackJarvis]

Day 3 of the Royal meeting folks.

Whats the fancies? Think YEATS looks a good thing to notch the 3rd Gold Cup although this Coastal Path certainly looks interesting.

Going to get up in the morning and have a good look.

[SteveO]

The stats are against yeats as only 1 7yr old has ever won this race if I remember rightly but he's been specifically aimed at this race and I would imagine everything has gone to plan and he'll take his 3rd Gold Cup.

A lot of people are raving about Coastal Path but this is a step up in class and I take Geordieland to chase Yeats home again as he did last year.

[tedthewolf]

Looks a very tough card but i've had a few bets.

In the 2.30 with Hannon/Hughes in such hot form i can't see past PROILIFC win bet at 7/1.
Mick Channon had a couple of winners at this royal meeting last year and i'm sure he will be in the winners enclosure at some stage so two e/w bets on 4.20 SIBERIAN TIGER 50'S and 5.30 DREAM DESERT 20's. Also a win bet in the 5.30 VIRTUAL 14's from a team who usually do well here as well but quiet so far.In the 4.55 Walter Swinburn has a decent horse and a decent in STAYING ON e/w 16's who hopefully will be doing just that.

Good Luck All.

[jcosgrove]

Gold Cup 15:45

1pt e/w Finalmente

Horse comes here in good form having won at Sandown LTO under a great ride from Frankie, was a muddling race but trainer says horse wasn't 100% so with some improvement comes here in better form than when 4th last year. Could easily run into a place at 25/1 with Ladbrokes.

[Verisimilitude]

GEORDIELAND 3.45 Ascot. 0.5 points each way. Naturally has the main two to beat, but certainly has a touch of class himself and should get the race run to suit. Lightly campaigned and 100% for today (as they all are) and so with a good tactical ride he can come there swinging away and then it's just a hope that he kicks, battles and gets the win. Nice each way price.

[Carl]

Originally Posted by SteveO

A lot of people are raving about Coastal Path but this is a step up in class and I take Geordieland to chase Yeats home again as he did last year.

Id agree with you on that can't see past Yeats for the win and Im having a cheeky SFC with Geordieland 7+4 SFC.

I wouldnt touch 2/1 for a horse unproven at the trip even if its unbeaten over 2miles.

[Gingertipster]

I am in two minds who I want to win.
Have had a good bet ante-post at 9/2 Coastal Path.
Yet if I am to win the tote ten to follow, Yeats really has to win.
Currently 5th in the Royal Ascot competition, 10th in the June and 29th overall.

Who would you be cheering on?

Ginge

[WoodyTHFC]

2.30 South Central 3/1 tote 25 pts Cerito 11/2 tote 12.5 pts e.w South Central hacked up on debut up north and was hugely impressive, 13l winner, clearly has bags of speed, might not have beat world beaters although the fav that day is a horse i like. However left a striking impression and connections have already struck gold in this race before with a similar speedy sort. Cerito was also impressive at bath, didnt win by anything like as far as south cenral but travelled well, picked up and was a really easy winner. The consensus straight away was for asc. and that is fairly signidicant firstly die to its ownership but more so due to the trainer who has a lot of nice 2 year olds and clearly thinks this one is good enough for that.

3.05 Changing Skies 36/5 12.5 pts e.w difficult race but a few of the key horses i dont think quite get the trip so one of the stayers is much respected and that is this one just ahead of dar re mi and the o'brien horse. Changing Skies is still a maiden but has run in some hottish races and lto was quite eye catching. Behind sail and sugar mint, she stayed on relentlessly despite not handling the track, admittedly the form has not been boosted as I thought it may have been but this horse looks to be wanting much more further which she gets today and i anticiapte she will like the track much more, place claims.

3.45 Coastal Path 21/10 25 pts i would have been very keen on Septimus who is better for me than Yeats as OR suggest and it is also an improver at the trip? However he is not here and Coastal Path can take advantage. I dont know all the ins and outs of its form but what I do know is that it is unbeaten and has put up some good visual performances so far, this undoubtedly has been the plan. yeats is not going to get any better now and whilst he has won this race well the last two times he is coming up against an improving new star and I think he is vulnerable. wouldnt want to back the others to win.

4.20 Flawed Genius 10/1 var bog 12.5 pts e.w Virtual 16/1 bluesq 12.5 pts e.w 5 places still on. Would also advise the improving Throne of Power but I cant have too many on what really looks the worse bit of the draw. Certainly evidence is uggesting that low is a positive and even if they all come over it can take so much out of them that it proves fatal, although with asc. that could change today, wouldnt surprise me. Either way the high drawn horse Im going for is Flawed Genius who has stoute improver marked all over him, was a good second at hq and then lto had little luck in valuable handicap when often getting a luckless run and finishing just behind some that reoppose today and that he has a pull from, bold run expected as long as the draw isnt as crucial as yesterday. Virtual is a nice sort who is going the right way. Ran in some nice races last year behind two fancied types, before winning a hot race at hq fto this year and I expect him to confirm that form today with those from that that take him on today, lto in listed race was far from disgraced but just could never really get going on softish ground that may not have suited his strong travelling style, this race certainly will and chances.

4.55 Collection 6/1 var bog 15 pts e.w NAP of the whole meeting (was 10/1 this morning but immediately removed as soon as a 16/1 non runner occurs and nothing like that price now) Moynahan 14/1 cor 10 pts e.w. The non runner makes it only 3 places. Collection is the horse I backed ante post for the Derby at a huge 200/1, other firms went 33/1, in the end connections after some consideration decided not to go and have gone here instead which has to be respected. It has always been a horse highly thought of and the vibes im getting is that it is one of the trainers best horses in his yard including yesterdays jersey winner. Second on debut, he then won his maiden easily enough up north, he was disappointing on soft ground after that as connections felt it couldnt handle it properly. However its win lto in a handicap was sensational in terms of overcoming adversity, of a slowish pace the horse was free initially (not far of new approach style free) and then when settled down it went to make its challenge three/four times and got blocked off each time, whilst still cruising, eventually it got its gap widest of all and then scooted to the line for a cosy win eventually. As i say that was a hugely impressive win in the circumstances, I went to back it for the derby straight away as I mentioned. It reminded me of a win by Sun Classique earlier in the year in dubai when it was constantly blocked off before getting the gap right at the right moment and we know what that did after that. To put it into context the horse only won a handicap and is rated lowest of all off 93 but I cant see that lasting, this looks a really progressive and well thought of horse and capable of stepping up. I would have put it in the TTTF if I could but i couldnt due to it remarkably not being there as I see it progressing with a couple of wins at least and maybe in group company soon. Very much looking foward to this running. Have also included my 2000 Guineas outsider, Moynahan. He ran an encouraging race in the 2000G when sixth eventually which is a top effort for an unexperienced horse. Clearly he was really well thought of because ahead of the likes of River proud, General Elliot, Luck Money he was thought to be good enough to take his chance. He too made a good impression during is nice maiden win in a traditionally hot york race. There is a doubt about the trip but clearly wise connections fancy him to get it, towards the end of a mile lto he was one paced really and it is difficult to say if he was tiring or just plugging on. Either way 14/1 looks a bit big but collection the real dark horse Im looking forward to here.

5.30 Colony 13/2 boy bog 12.5 pts e.w Daraahem 11/1 var bog 12.5 pts e.w Various formlines but sticking with colony who was my fancy in a race that sees a few of them clash again here. I felt in that race lto that Colony was just a bit one paced over slightly shorter and behind Strategic Mission who shouldnt be ignored. His win in a handicap at San looks better and better with captain webb, codiut behind and afterwards the consensus seemed to be he would get further, off 87 still feared. Daraahem is also of interest here, sprang to my attention when staying on eyecatchingly at hq in a decent race, he then won lto at chester which his trainer undoubtedly would have targetted somewhat. He was fairly impressive on both ocassions and suggested this trip is definitely within range, looks an improving sort like so many in here and interestingly connections have gone this route rather than tomorrows group race.

[TheRat]

4.55 Ascot Moynahan EW (14/1 Coral 1/4 odds, 3 places)
Like the look of this one for the price here. Was a very decent 6th in the Guineas, and all the horses that have ran here above him have fared well. that's his only run after winning a good maiden last year, should come on from that run LTO too. Should perform on the ground, and the only question is the extra 2 furlongs. I would like to think he will see them out myself, but the question mark is why he is 14s,

[mileni4uk]

Originally Posted by WoodyTHFC

Virtual 16/1 bluesq 12.5 pts e.w 5 places still on.

Strong money for this one.

[galileorock]

Non Runners:information willhill
2.30 Finjaan, Mullionmileanho', Waffle, Moss Likely
3.45 Baddam
4.20 Cobo Bay, Huzzah, Endless Luck, Navajo Joe, Wasan
4.55 Fanjura
5.30 Allied Powers, Manyriverstocros

[TheRat]

Virtual definatly looks a good thing and I liked the look of Perks, but looks so open I just bottled it
Good luck though with Virtual, does look to be in with a very good chance

[AK1979]

Horse: Trenchtown (IRE)
Course: ROYAL ASCOT
Time: 5.30
Your Notes:
Trenchtown was only beaten by the highly regarded Patkai, who was 2nd in Allied Powers and Tignabruaich’s race despite hanging left and being denied a clear run, he stayed on well after that. On that form he must be considered here off only 3lb’s higher.

Horse: Tighnabruaich (IRE)
Course: ROYAL ASCOT
Time: 5.30
Your Notes:
His 4th place last time out looks good form with the 1st and 2nd winning again since, especially as the selection didn’t appear to handle the course. Faces Allied Powers on much better terms now on a course he will appreciate more. That could be enough to get him competitive.

Horse: Virtual (GB)
Course: ROYAL ASCOT
Time: 4.20
Your Notes:
The form of this ones win is working out well but was perhaps pitched a bit high last time in Listed company where he nevertheless ran respectably on ground that was unlikely to suit. He had a Group 1 entry up until a week ago so is well thought of.

[fintron]

4.20

Was going to sit out Ascot today and just take in the action but then remembered I had to pick one for the Ascot competition on here. Thebes was my choice, so I suppose I have to back it now don't I (albeit to small stakes).

Makes his turf debut here for Mark Johnston and has yet to race beyond 7f. However, he has demolished lesser opposition on his last three runs and for one that likes to race prominently, stall 28 is a good draw and should enable Ffrench to hit the rail early. He's by Cadeaux Generaux so should act on the surface, it is all a question of whether he will last the mile? at 33/1 (Betfred) I'll take a small EW chance that he does.

[bowles10]

Very tricky day today & just have this feeling about young Ryan Moore breaking his duck at the meeting.

He rides Sunship for Hannon & the rest for Stoute, Sovereigns honour, Allegretto, Flawed Genius, kensington Oval, Colony.

I feel stoute is worth a winner or 2 at the meeting & the final 2 look to have the best chances of these rides today. Ryan chooses Kensington Oval over Dr Faustus who looked a horse to follow when winning easily 1st time up this season. If Ryan had the choice, it has steered me in the direction of the unexposed Kensington Oval. Colony ran well to win 1st time up at sandown turning over stable companion Conduit who bolted up at Epsom on derby day. Then finished 3rd behind Strategic Mission & could trun those tables today with a weight advantage. Has to come from off a strong pace so hopefully will get it today.

I would also consider an ew on Sunship in the 1st race as the horse could take these along at a decent pace & drawn 4 can take control early. Is there to be shot at but horses forcing the pace have done well all week. 25/1 is just too big Betfred!

2.30 Sunship 25/1 Betfred ew

4.55 Kensington Oval 11/2 Paddypower

5.30 Colony 5/1 Bet365 (BOG)

[bartonbank]

4.20 Not a tip but I had a fancy for the reserve runner of Elsworth's @ 33/1. Obviously worried which stall it would go in and, in the end, had to call the racecourse. It will go in stall 26 if anyone else was considering it for a bet or for placepot purposes.

[bowles10]

already tipped up 3 horses & decided to have a punt over the 6 races today as well with some others:

2.30 Sunship 25/1 - big price with Champion jockey on board, will be up the front from the off.

3.05 Sovereigns Honour 12/1 - hasnt shown full potential as yet but is capable of better things.

3.45 No bet for me

4.20 Commander Cave 14/1 - well drawn & in good form.

4.55 Pampas Cat 14/1 - won well at the craven meeting & still may have another race to come.

5.30 Missioner 13/2 - shapes as though trip will be ideal. Unlucky loser last time out.

EW Lucky 31 on those 5.

[Falbrav]

4.55 Ascot. Kensington Oval. 1 point win.

Should get the race run to suit and with Ryan Moore desperate for winners, I doubt he'll be making any mistakes. Trip and ground's fine and so looks sure to go close.

[TheRat]

Going to have a small EW dabble on Whitcombe Minister as well in the 16.55. Been following him and would be annoyed if did something today on harder ground, which he will prefer. Has shown glimpses but I think conditions are good today and having a small amount on the 40/1 available.

[Carl]

Originally Posted by Carl

Id agree with you on that can't see past Yeats for the win and Im having a cheeky SFC with Geordieland 7+4 SFC.

I wouldnt touch 2/1 for a horse unproven at the trip even if its unbeaten over 2miles.

What a machine


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