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Old 10-07-2008, 21:23   #241 (permalink)
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Thanks Kamo.

Now the Bunbury Cup.
Have not been through the race working out percentages but...
I know one of the owners of this horse and he has told me in the past, this horse will do far better on a soft surface. Has run well on good-firm so far this season for his new trainer.

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Old 10-07-2008, 21:34   #242 (permalink)
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2:00 Newmarket
£50 @ 7.8/1 Weald Park (17% 5/1)
£25 @ 8.4/1 Shaweel (14% 6/1)
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Old 10-07-2008, 21:41   #243 (permalink)
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Will wait until late to have bets in the July Cup as ground conditions may change.
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Old 10-07-2008, 22:01   #244 (permalink)
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2:00
Very few of these have any form on a soft surface but it is not clear yet that it will be that soft at 2:00pm. Doubt if it will be any worse than good-soft anyway.

So far this week there has been an advantage to race prominently. Weald Park and Shaweel are the most likely prominent runners here. Hope they do not take each other on. Weald Park was very impressive last time out and stays 7f well. Shaweel was disappointing at Ascot but the trainer is now in much better form. Ignoring that run Shaweel would stand a good chance here. I am a little concerned if it came up soft whether a Dansili colt would act on it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:31   #245 (permalink)
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2:00 Newmarket (addition)
£27 @ 8/1 (sportingbet) Classic Blade

Bets like this don't come around that often. So have put a bigger than usual bet on.
Impressive at Salisbury on good-firm last time but won on good-soft before that. Has a markedly round action usually favoured by soft ground. Stamina might be a problem in the ground but may be able to get a soft lead. Improving and has much better form (at present) than the talking horse Sayif. Who is only that price through home reputation and the trainers winner in this last year.
Prolific is a danger, ran well at Ascot on firm. Will he be as good on soft? Got beat on good-soft. Running on at the Royal meeting and should benefit by an extra furlong.
Effort is interesting, Johnston was in poor form at Ascot yet Effort ran well, improvement looks likely and has run well on good-soft.

I expect Classic Blade to start around half his current price.
What a great call on this one, thanks Ginger Top Man..

Fingers Crossed for some more winners today

and ive just seen you tipped Lucarno and Nahood too...Top Stuff

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:55   #246 (permalink)
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Yep, thanks mate, not only £27 at 8/1 but £62 at 6.2/1 Classic Blade.

Now for July Cup.

Going to take a chance it does not rain too much before the off with Benbaun. Price is worth taking the chance with. Zidane should act on good-soft.

£10 each way @ 25/1 (Tote or Laddies) Benbaun (6.5% 15/1)
£12 each way @ 20/1 (Fred Done or Bl sq) Zidane (7% 14/1)
(24/1 is available (win only) at betfair)
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:16   #247 (permalink)
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Now for July Cup.

Going to take a chance it does not rain too much before the off with Benbaun. Price is worth taking the chance with. Zidane should act on good-soft.

£10 each way @ 25/1 (Tote or Laddies) Benbaun (6.5% 15/1)
£12 each way @ 20/1 (Fred Done or Bl sq) Zidane (7% 14/1)
(24/1 is available (win only) at betfair)
Templegate in the Sun backed Benbaun today too...
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Old 11-07-2008, 14:06   #248 (permalink)
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July Cup addition.
£30 @ 7.2/1 Kingsgate Native (15% 11/2)
£8 @ 29/1 Fat Boy (4.5% 22/1)
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Old 11-07-2008, 18:09   #249 (permalink)
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A belated well done for yesterday Ginge, didnt have time to go through all the threads, good stuff!
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:05   #250 (permalink)
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Cheers Billy.

7:25 Salisbury
£100 @ 2.3/1 Tudor Key (36% 7/4)

Have reduced the stake due to soft going though the selection ran well on ground with give underfoot on debut prior to chasing home Free Agent in the Chesham (4th). Surely must have a better than 33% chance of winning this maiden, but am a little concerned about the stable's form.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:30   #251 (permalink)
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3:35 Chester
£100 @ 11/4 (B365) Borderlescott (33% 2/1)
Much maligned horse, very consistant but has found one too good so many times. Always a does his best. Not that well drawn but plenty of front runners to make that not such a bad thing.
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Old 12-07-2008, 15:03   #252 (permalink)
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Nothing on Cesare today, Ginge?
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Old 12-07-2008, 15:19   #253 (permalink)
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8:30 Salisbury
£40 @ 6.4/1 Hadron Collider (16.5% 5/1)
£7 @ 8.2/1 Obrigado (12.5% 7/1)
£16 @ 3.6/1 Bold Bobby be (25% 3/1)

9:00 Salisbury
£50 @ 5/1 Victoria Reel (20% 4/1)
£12 @ 4.1/1 Maramba (23% 100/30)
£6 @ 12/1 Jazz Jam (10% 9/1)

(Was concerned about the pace in the race with Cesare, and Frank Spencer)
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Group 2 race but he was up against Group 1 horses.
Lost 2nd near the line.
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4:10 Curragh
£75 @ 7/2 Katiyra (25% 3/1)

Was my pick along with Machita at Epsom and both did not act.
Moonstone is an obvious danger but will need a strongly run race to show her best (stayer). Did think about backing her for the St Leger but if she wins may not take part.
Gagnoa is the other with a good chance, bred to improve at the trip and chaced home Zarkava last time.
Can't see Mad about you or Chinese White staying the trip.
May come back for one or two savers.

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4:10 Curragh (addition)
£30 @ 5/2 (Paddies) Moonstone (31.5% 85/40)

Overall price taken 20/21 must have a better than 51% chance combined. With only Gagnoa considered a real danger (Gagnoa is also value in my book but do not like taking long odds on).

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Ante-post.

I see this is getting shorter today so..

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According to Oddschecker 10/1 is still available with Ladbrokes, Corals and Hills.
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1:50 Newbury
£50 @ 6.4/1 Doctor Crane (16.5% 5/1)
£20 @ 2.9/1 Oratory (29% 5/2)

2:20 Newbury
£33 @ 15.5/1 Edge Closer (12% 15/2)
£25 @ 14/1 Beckermet (9% 10/1)

3:25 Newbury
£31 @ 12/1 Infamous Angel (11% 8/1)
£25 @ 13.5/1 Senor Mirasol (9% 10/1)
£6 @ 9.5/1 Bahamian Babe (11.5% 15/2)

4:30 Newbury
£38 @ 7.6/1 Al Shemali (13% 13/2)
£12`@ 31/1 Hearthstead Maison (5% 20/1)
£9 @ 59/1 Escape Route (3.5% 28/1)
£5 @ 109/1 Levera (2% 50/1)
£6 @ 12/1 Baharah (9.5% 10/1)
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2:50 Newbury
£75 @ 7/2 Maghya (25% 3/1)
£14 @ 7/1 Fragrancy (14% 6/1)
£20 @ 4.7/1 Lisdelean (20% 4/1)

(Additions)
2:20 Newbury
£10 @ 23/1 Edge Closer

3:25 Newbury
£10 @ 18/1 Infamous Angel

Both additions look particularly good value.
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