AYR ~ Friday 19/09/08

[tedthewolf]

SILVER CUP~AGAINST THE GRAIN 28/1 E/W

Normally i back a couple in a big race like this but i just fancy this one and very strongly at that! Very lightly raced 5yo having its first run over 6f. As a 3yo trained by Mark Johnstone winning fto over 7f and looked like one to follow indeed wasn't beaten far nto in 3rd on ground that may have been to firm as it ran a bit poor on similar ground on its next run was then sent over a mile were it blew up 2f out. Didn't run as a 4yo . Came out in march this year for new trainer Len Lungo who may have jumps in mind for him and won 25/1 sp(i was on at bigger) again over 7f kicked clear a furlong out and just held on. Ran ok nto in a class2. His last run over a mile in July again he didn't see it out. Seems to need a break between races. Will be fresh and fit today and will run a big race for shrewd Len. Well thats what i think as i have been following it and really fancy it the fact its 6f doesn't but me off as its heavy ground.

[mattmcandrew]

I've been looking through the field for the Silver Cup and doing my usual deadwood cutting job. I've reluctantly narrowed it down to three and they are Bel Cantor, Harrison George and Against The Grain.

Bel Cantor really has been in sparkling form as of late and for that reason alone, he must be in with a shout. But combine that with his tremendous record on soft and heavy ground and you have an exciting prospect at 16/1 with Sporting Bet. The only question marks are his liking of the course, as he has been unplaced in two runs, one on heavy, one on good to soft, so it is a concern that he just doesn't take to the place, but it would be very picky to discount him for that reason.

Harrison George has been placed in 9 of his 12 starts. He's used to placing in big fields, which is always something to appreciate. He's extremely versatile and heavy ground certainly seems a bonus. He's one to keep an eye on for the future and I just cannot see him not being thereabouts today. Write him off at your peril. Best price is 11/1 at the moment.

Finally, Against The Grain is somewhat of an unknown quantity. Just by looking at his record, you get the impression a drop to 6f would not be a problem at all. He will also get the ground, but the biggest concern for me is he's been off the track for 75 days and a field like this is going to be very different from anything he's handled before. So he is interesting but one to tread carefully with.

My advice would be to back Bel Cantor and Harrison George.

[stewartd14]

3.30 Suzie Quw @ 4/1

I really like this horse today in what doesnt looka great race. Suzie Quw has only had 3 runs in her 2 year old career, but unlike some of the others, is proven on the heavy surface which she will encounter today. When she won at Hamilton, she beat Paddy Bear who could be a future winner and she then followed that up when stepped right up in class at Haydock last time. She was running in a Class 2 contest, and ran with great credit behind Favourite Girl. She also beat Coleorton Choice that day and I think she can uphold that form.

Suzie Quw is capable of improving on that run, ground conditions are ideal and Karl Burke isnt in bad form. This doesnt look a great race, and its a drop down in class for the selection. A great bet at the price on offer.

4.40 Northern Dare @ 25/1

Backed this horse last time, trainer is in great form and should give a good account of himself

5.45 Stravonian @ 33/1

I am currently following this horse's trainer as he is absolutely hopeless but seems to be coming into form. Stravonian has put in some nice runs recently, just not quite getting there. the step up to 2 miles will suit. Not sure about the drop in class but with 8 runners, he looks a good EW bet.

[RussP]

4.40 Ayr
Silver Cup cavalry charge. Absolute lottery and many in with chances but I'm quite sweet on one of Dandy's in:
Joseph Henry (16/1 Paddy Power) - Has been running really well lately but its tendency to hang has been an issue. Lto, ran best of those drawn low although runners merged finishing 3rd of 21. Previous to that, would have gone close but veered across the track. Draw beat it the time before whilst its hanging tendency again reared its ugly head on the run before that. However, drawn well in 25 and could the rail here. Goes well in big fields and races prominently which is usually a plus at Ayr and in big handicaps. Paying 4 places, I think we'll get a return with this horse.

[stewartd14]

Originally Posted by tedthewolf

SILVER CUP~AGAINST THE GRAIN 28/1 E/W

Normally i back a couple in a big race like this but i just fancy this one and very strongly at that! Very lightly raced 5yo having its first run over 6f. As a 3yo trained by Mark Johnstone winning fto over 7f and looked like one to follow indeed wasn't beaten far nto in 3rd on ground that may have been to firm as it ran a bit poor on similar ground on its next run was then sent over a mile were it blew up 2f out. Didn't run as a 4yo . Came out in march this year for new trainer Len Lungo who may have jumps in mind for him and won 25/1 sp(i was on at bigger) again over 7f kicked clear a furlong out and just held on. Ran ok nto in a class2. His last run over a mile in July again he didn't see it out. Seems to need a break between races. Will be fresh and fit today and will run a big race for shrewd Len. Well thats what i think as i have been following it and really fancy it the fact its 6f doesn't but me off as its heavy ground.

1st

[Spooner]

Originally Posted by tedthewolf

SILVER CUP~AGAINST THE GRAIN 28/1 E/W

Normally i back a couple in a big race like this but i just fancy this one and very strongly at that! Very lightly raced 5yo having its first run over 6f. As a 3yo trained by Mark Johnstone winning fto over 7f and looked like one to follow indeed wasn't beaten far nto in 3rd on ground that may have been to firm as it ran a bit poor on similar ground on its next run was then sent over a mile were it blew up 2f out. Didn't run as a 4yo . Came out in march this year for new trainer Len Lungo who may have jumps in mind for him and won 25/1 sp(i was on at bigger) again over 7f kicked clear a furlong out and just held on. Ran ok nto in a class2. His last run over a mile in July again he didn't see it out. Seems to need a break between races. Will be fresh and fit today and will run a big race for shrewd Len. Well thats what i think as i have been following it and really fancy it the fact its 6f doesn't but me off as its heavy ground.

1st



Quality Ted.

[Spooner]

Originally Posted by RussP

4.40 Ayr
Silver Cup cavalry charge. Absolute lottery and many in with chances but I'm quite sweet on one of Dandy's in:
Joseph Henry (16/1 Paddy Power) - Has been running really well lately but its tendency to hang has been an issue. Lto, ran best of those drawn low although runners merged finishing 3rd of 21. Previous to that, would have gone close but veered across the track. Draw beat it the time before whilst its hanging tendency again reared its ugly head on the run before that. However, drawn well in 25 and could the rail here. Goes well in big fields and races prominently which is usually a plus at Ayr and in big handicaps. Paying 4 places, I think we'll get a return with this horse.

3rd.

[Spooner]

Originally Posted by mattmcandrew

I've been looking through the field for the Silver Cup and doing my usual deadwood cutting job. I've reluctantly narrowed it down to three and they are Bel Cantor, Harrison George and Against The Grain.

Bel Cantor really has been in sparkling form as of late and for that reason alone, he must be in with a shout. But combine that with his tremendous record on soft and heavy ground and you have an exciting prospect at 16/1 with Sporting Bet. The only question marks are his liking of the course, as he has been unplaced in two runs, one on heavy, one on good to soft, so it is a concern that he just doesn't take to the place, but it would be very picky to discount him for that reason.

Harrison George has been placed in 9 of his 12 starts. He's used to placing in big fields, which is always something to appreciate. He's extremely versatile and heavy ground certainly seems a bonus. He's one to keep an eye on for the future and I just cannot see him not being thereabouts today. Write him off at your peril. Best price is 11/1 at the moment.

Finally, Against The Grain is somewhat of an unknown quantity. Just by looking at his record, you get the impression a drop to 6f would not be a problem at all. He will also get the ground, but the biggest concern for me is he's been off the track for 75 days and a field like this is going to be very different from anything he's handled before. So he is interesting but one to tread carefully with.

My advice would be to back Bel Cantor and Harrison George.

1st, 2nd and 4th.

Outstanding.

[fintron]

Originally Posted by tedthewolf

SILVER CUP~AGAINST THE GRAIN 28/1 E/W

Normally i back a couple in a big race like this but i just fancy this one and very strongly at that! Very lightly raced 5yo having its first run over 6f. As a 3yo trained by Mark Johnstone winning fto over 7f and looked like one to follow indeed wasn't beaten far nto in 3rd on ground that may have been to firm as it ran a bit poor on similar ground on its next run was then sent over a mile were it blew up 2f out. Didn't run as a 4yo . Came out in march this year for new trainer Len Lungo who may have jumps in mind for him and won 25/1 sp(i was on at bigger) again over 7f kicked clear a furlong out and just held on. Ran ok nto in a class2. His last run over a mile in July again he didn't see it out. Seems to need a break between races. Will be fresh and fit today and will run a big race for shrewd Len. Well thats what i think as i have been following it and really fancy it the fact its 6f doesn't but me off as its heavy ground.

Take a Bow, excellent

Well done Russ for the place and mattmcandrew, you mentioned the winner, hope you backed it in the end?

[puntyboy]

Well done to both of you...Yeeeehaawwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[RussP]

Originally Posted by tedthewolf

SILVER CUP~AGAINST THE GRAIN 28/1 E/W

Normally i back a couple in a big race like this but i just fancy this one and very strongly at that! Very lightly raced 5yo having its first run over 6f. As a 3yo trained by Mark Johnstone winning fto over 7f and looked like one to follow indeed wasn't beaten far nto in 3rd on ground that may have been to firm as it ran a bit poor on similar ground on its next run was then sent over a mile were it blew up 2f out. Didn't run as a 4yo . Came out in march this year for new trainer Len Lungo who may have jumps in mind for him and won 25/1 sp(i was on at bigger) again over 7f kicked clear a furlong out and just held on. Ran ok nto in a class2. His last run over a mile in July again he didn't see it out. Seems to need a break between races. Will be fresh and fit today and will run a big race for shrewd Len. Well thats what i think as i have been following it and really fancy it the fact its 6f doesn't but me off as its heavy ground.

Originally Posted by mattmcandrew

I've been looking through the field for the Silver Cup and doing my usual deadwood cutting job. I've reluctantly narrowed it down to three and they are Bel Cantor, Harrison George and Against The Grain.

Bel Cantor really has been in sparkling form as of late and for that reason alone, he must be in with a shout. But combine that with his tremendous record on soft and heavy ground and you have an exciting prospect at 16/1 with Sporting Bet. The only question marks are his liking of the course, as he has been unplaced in two runs, one on heavy, one on good to soft, so it is a concern that he just doesn't take to the place, but it would be very picky to discount him for that reason.

Harrison George has been placed in 9 of his 12 starts. He's used to placing in big fields, which is always something to appreciate. He's extremely versatile and heavy ground certainly seems a bonus. He's one to keep an eye on for the future and I just cannot see him not being thereabouts today. Write him off at your peril. Best price is 11/1 at the moment.

Finally, Against The Grain is somewhat of an unknown quantity. Just by looking at his record, you get the impression a drop to 6f would not be a problem at all. He will also get the ground, but the biggest concern for me is he's been off the track for 75 days and a field like this is going to be very different from anything he's handled before. So he is interesting but one to tread carefully with.

My advice would be to back Bel Cantor and Harrison George.

Originally Posted by RussP

4.40 Ayr
Silver Cup cavalry charge. Absolute lottery and many in with chances but I'm quite sweet on one of Dandy's in:
Joseph Henry (16/1 Paddy Power) - Has been running really well lately but its tendency to hang has been an issue. Lto, ran best of those drawn low although runners merged finishing 3rd of 21. Previous to that, would have gone close but veered across the track. Draw beat it the time before whilst its hanging tendency again reared its ugly head on the run before that. However, drawn well in 25 and could the rail here. Goes well in big fields and races prominently which is usually a plus at Ayr and in big handicaps. Paying 4 places, I think we'll get a return with this horse.

How do you like your 1-2-3-4 in the Ayr Silver Cup?

1st (21) Against The Grain 16-1
2nd (15) Harrison George 10-1
3rd (10) Joseph Henry 12-1
4th (9) Bel Cantor 16-1
27 ran
Also 6-1 Fav Mullein
WIN £19.70
EX £232.50CSF £149.97

[Spooner]

Originally Posted by RussP

How do you like your 1-2-3-4 in the Ayr Silver Cup?

1st (21) Against The Grain 16-1
2nd (15) Harrison George 10-1
3rd (10) Joseph Henry 12-1
4th (9) Bel Cantor 16-1
27 ran
Also 6-1 Fav Mullein
WIN £19.70
EX £232.50CSF £149.97

On the banner, 'How do you like your 1-2-3-4 Ayr silver cup'?

[RussP]

Anyone for a £2,054 tricast?

Brilliant stuff Matt - 1st, 2nd & 4th, simply brilliant.

Ted, great winner mate. Superb price.

[Mr Intensity]

[RussP]

5.15 Ayr
1m handicap with 12 runners and open heat. I'm EW on:-
Ink Spot (6/1 Ladbrokes) - Good apprentice taking 5lb off, well drawn, suited by trip, loves the ground, 2nd to Ayr Silver Cup Harrison George 3 starts ago and trainer in great form. Will certainly be in the mix.

[stewartd14]

5.15

Having a nibble on Dandy's 2, Marning Star @ 14 and Minority Report @ 40

[RussP]

Originally Posted by RussP

5.15 Ayr
1m handicap with 12 runners and open heat. I'm EW on:-
Ink Spot (6/1 Ladbrokes) - Good apprentice taking 5lb off, well drawn, suited by trip, loves the ground, 2nd to Ayr Silver Cup Harrison George 3 starts ago and trainer in great form. Will certainly be in the mix.

3rd.

[Spooner]

Well done Russ, Small profit but profit.

[tedthewolf]

I love it when a plan comes together.

Awesome Matt

Your never to far away Russ 2 placers

Shrewd Len

....and not forgetting the Jock who has ridden him in all but one starts Jo Fanning even Linford Christi wouldn't have caught you today son


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