ATR - Who are we?

[BillyHills]

I nevere actually found out what the placepot paid that day so if any of you guys can find out id love to know.

PuntyBoy, the Placepot paid £387.50 to a £1 stake

CHELTENHAM 16 March 2007 Good To Soft My Result Result 5:20 Vincent O'Brien County Handicap Hurdle Grade 3 (Class 1) (5yo+) 8 hdles 2m1f [off 5:21] £39,914.00, £14,973.00, £7,497.00, £3,738.00, £1,876.00, £938.00 TRAINER Age Wgt JOCKEY SP OR TS RPR 1 Pedrobob (IRE) Anthony Mullins 9 10-0 P A Carberry 12/1 135 143 143+ 2 1 Ouninpohja P F Nicholls 6 10-0 R Walsh 11/2 135 141 142+ 3 nk Premier Dane (IRE) N G Richards 5 10-0 Brian Harding 100/1 135 141 142 4 ¾ Kawagino (IRE) J W Mullins 7 10-0 Wayne Kavanagh(5) 20/1 140 145 147+ 5 hd Arcalis J Howard Johnson 7 11-2 P J Brennan 16/1 151 156 157 6 1 Caracciola (GER) N J Henderson 10 10-2 Andrew Tinkler 16/1 137 141 142 7 shd Sweet Wake (GER) Noel Meade 6 10-2 Denis O´Regan 12/1 137 141 143+ 8 1 Crow Wood (GB) J J Quinn 8 10-9 G Lee 33/1 144 147 148 9 ¾ Callow Lake (IRE) Mrs John Harrington 7 10-2 b A D Leigh(5) 16/1 142 144 146+ 10 2½ Osana (FR) D E Pipe 5 10-9 A P McCoy 11/2 144 143 145+ 11 2 Trompette (USA) N J Henderson 5 10-0 T J Doyle 33/1 135 132 133 12 1¼ Baron De Feypo (IRE) Patrick O Brady 9 10-0 2 N P Madden 40/1 135 131 133+ 13 2½ Gods Token (GB) Miss Venetia Williams 9 9-11 5 Liam Treadwell(3) 66/1 135 128 130 14 nk Tarlac (GER) N J Henderson 6 10-0 Marcus Foley 25/1 135 128 131+ 15 2½ Maralan (IRE) Patrick O Brady 6 9-9 5b R J Molloy(5) 33/1 135 125 127 16 shd Desert Quest (IRE) P F Nicholls 7 11-9 b Liam Heard(3) 20/1 161 151 154+ 17 1 Ameeq (USA) G L Moore 5 9-9 9 S P Jones(5) 16/1 135 124 126 18 2½ O´Toole (IRE) P J Hobbs 8 9-8 Darren O´Dwyer(7) 80/1 136 122 124 19 1½ New Field (IRE) Thomas Mullins 9 10-0 8 D J Casey 25/1 135 120 122 20 1 Made In Japan (JPN) A Bateman 7 9-11 Colin Bolger(3) 50/1 135 118 121 21 1¼ Lord Henry (IRE) P J Hobbs 8 10-0 1 T J O´Brien 50/1 135 117 119 22 4 Trouble At Bay (IRE) A King 7 10-1 b1 Robert Thornton 33/1 136 114 116 23 ½ Whispered Promises (USA) R S Brookhouse 6 10-7 Alan O´Keeffe 25/1 142 119 122 24 1½ Cadogan (FR) J T R Dreaper 7 9-11 5 A E Lynch(3) 66/1 135 110 113 25 8 Fair Along (GER) P J Hobbs 5 10-7 Richard Johnson 3/1F 142 109 120+ 26 10 Flame Creek (IRE) E J Creighton 11 10-10 Mark Grant 100/1 145 100 105 27 6 Papini (IRE) N J Henderson 6 10-6 1 Mick Fitzgerald 33/1 141 89 95 28 ½ The Spoonplayer (IRE) Henry De Bromhead 8 10-0 6 D J Condon 100/1 135 83 89 28 ran TIME 3m 53.90s (fast by 3.10s) TOTAL SP 144% 1st OWNER: Barry Connell BRED: John Brophy TRAINER: Anthony Mullins 2nd OWNER: Mrs M Findlay 3rd OWNER: Jim Ennis TOTE WIN £16.10 PL £3.30, £2.60, £20.90, £6.40; Ex £135.70; CSF £73.89; TRICAST £6501.37Pool: £11,579.62 - 1.00 winning unit. Place 6 £ 378.44, Place 5 £ 85.56 TRIFECTA £8221.50 Pool: £11,579.62 - 1.00 winning unit. Place 6 £ 378.44, Place 5 £ 85.56 JACKPOT Not won. PLACEPOT £387.50 to a £1 stake. Pool: £908,960.12. 1,712.35 winning tickets. QUADPOT £58.80 to a £1 stake. Pool: £35,970.45. 452.00 winning tickets. My Notes Analysis Comments In Running

[billy the punter]

I'm Billy (obviously). Got into gambling due to my dad having a keen interest. In the past he was a greyhound man - he had a book at a track for a while but I think it bored him. So my first experiences were at a very early age and were all around greyhound racing. That game has changed these days and he is more of a horse man now. We own three horses with one friend and were winning owners four times in our first season.

I loved the Grand National, bet on it every year, it was always kind to me and still is to this day. As soon as I reached a suitable age (ie when I could get in a betting shop, which was around 17) I started followed horses, around Royal Ascot 1994. I became obsessed straight away, I had my first 'system' by the end of the following flat season and by 1996 I had my first £500 bet. Farmost - a winner at 11/10. I'm still not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing!

I started work in the industry soon after, years at the Racing Post, as well as time as an odds compiler and tipster. It wasn't always win, win, win in those years - far from it. I had massive swings, my staking went up and down more than Tower Bridge and I've been skint more times than I care to remember. I loved all those years but left it in 2004 to give it a go as a pro.

90% of my staking is done through betfair, not only are the getting on problems are a thing of the past, I'm able to trade and bet in-running. I favour flat racing, especially the a/w. My favourite races to work on are claimers and sellers, and the big handicaps on the turf. Although I trade and play in running over the sticks I only really have opinions when it comes to the big meetings. I rarely back E/W, prefering to back two or more in a race.

In my 4th year now, and it is really hard work. For years, like all of us, my problem has been discipline. Since doing this fulltime I've had motivation and dedication added to the problem list. However I've almost grown out of all three thesedays. I made a living despite them in the past so I'm extremely hopeful of bumper profits over the NEXT four years.

Best memories
Backing Cape Verdi ante-post at 16s after her 2-y-o defeat at Royal Ascot, 11 months before the race.
Backing Private Benjamin at 100/1 when he won his maiden at Lingfield.
Backing Hardy Eustace at 40/1 just after watching Well Chief win the Arkle having backed him antepost at 33/1 - had a good night after that!
Last Saturday's 1234 in the Spring Mile is up there too, had the same thing (1234) in a L'stown handicap in 2005 with a £1100 t/c.

Worst memories
Having a T/C comb on Lord Gyllene, Suny Bay and Buckboard Bounce in the National - 1st (14s), 2nd (8s) and 4th (40s)
Wanted Ad Hoc for around 25k after backing him at 33s for the National. Went off 10/1, and was cantering when he was brought down by Davids Lad four out (who falls there?!).
Backing Yesterday antepost to win the 2003 Oaks (£200 at 40s), beaten a neck at 10/3. Read the form line - sickening.
Backing Park Accord at 66/1 for the 1000 Guineas before she saw a course, was unbeaten and 6/1 fav when she broke down at home.

[bowles10]

cheers Billy

do you get down the track at all? I try to frequent some of the surrey tracks during the year at various times. Keep thinking i'll give up my season ticket at the R's to get a membership at Sandown or Ascot!

my old man knows a few of the boys who have worked at the RP on the tipping pages over the years. All Journo's except "the couch" of course!

What horses have you been involved in over the years? Tel me to mind my own business if you want!

[billy the punter]

Originally Posted by bowles10

cheers Billy

do you get down the track at all? I try to frequent some of the surrey tracks during the year at various times. Keep thinking i'll give up my season ticket at the R's to get a membership at Sandown or Ascot!

my old man knows a few of the boys who have worked at the RP on the tipping pages over the years. All Journo's except "the couch" of course!

What horses have you been involved in over the years? Tel me to mind my own business if you want!

Nah don't be silly.

I don't go racing as much as I used to, with betfair there is just no need. I do go to Lingfield quite a bit as it's not far from me. Will go most places if we have a runner. Go for social reason a good few times a year though, southern tracks. NEVER miss Goodwood.

I didn't do any tipping for the Post, although I know a lot of those boys. The tipping I did was for outside firms.

The couch is back at the Post now ain't he. He is good value.

Dropped you a line btw.

[WHUPUNTER]

So what horses you involved with then Billy if you dont mind me asking?

[Abertawe]

Hello guys,
Im 17 years old and live in Swansea, first walked in to a bookies when i was 16 and just attempted accys on the football etc.
Always enjoyed watching Horse Racing on the tele since i was a nipper but i was always more interested in football.

For the past couple of months ive been watching this forum and taking up on some of the info that is posted on here.
However in the last fortnight or so i decided i wanted to try a hand at it myself, ive currently stopped making bets for the time being and started studying. Racing Post is my manual and have started to try and compile a notebook including horses, trainers, jockeys & courses.

Over the past few day ive started to use a very very basic way of picking horses.
1)Look over trainer with a good record at the course.
2)Jockeys with a good record at the course.
3)Have a scan to see what horse(s) the trainer/jockey is running with and analyise the form & ability of the horse.

Not really the most complex of 'system' but a good way to get started i feel, and seems to produce ok results so far.
Ive much to learn as im a complete novice but i hope to get involved on here and look to try new ways of picking winners or places.

Sorry to bore you

[BillyHills]

Abertawe, to the ATR section
Look forward to your contribution, we dont bite and some of the guys are not bad at giving advice either.

BH