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whoneedsrio · 12-11-2007, 13:59

Must be my turn then.

I'm John & in late February next year I shall knock up the half century

I've always liked watching the horse racing, I can remember watching Grandstand in black & white in the 60's with my Dad & trying to pick the winner. He was never into gambling, other than a couple of lines on the pools so I can't blame him for my interest.

When I left school in 1974 I started as an apprentice printer, one of the printers liked a bet & on most Saturday mornings we worked over, I'd pick three out & Vic would put them in a round robin.
One Saturday he says "what we got"? I showed him my three picks.
"Theres that crackerjack Irish horse in that race" he says so I dropped my choice & picked another.
Of course the sub gets beat, the other two win at decent odds & my original choice turns over the Crackerjack

At first I was more into the jumps, this was the time of Night Nurse, Monksfield & the horse that was, still is & probably always will be my favourite Sea Pigeon, twice champion hurdler & the best handicapper on the flat that ever walked the planet.
Over the years though I became more interested in the flat to such an extent that during the 90's I bet very little over the sticks.

Like most I staked small on yankees etc for a good few years till the late 80's. By now I'd started working shifts which is where the money was in printing. I'd saved up a betting bank & started betting mainly in win singles. 1987 was a breakthough year for me, I kept a record of my bets & made a profit, that was the year Mtoto won the first of his two Eclipse's.
Things continued pretty much in the same vein till around 1999. I moved house that year & as part of the new mortgage I had to open a current account, so there I was with a seperate debit card. I'd had a little dabble with the odd internet bet but now I could stick my betting money in there & keep it apart from the normal account & it's very rare I go in a betting shop now.

When it falls right for my shift pattern I do go racing, mainly to York where the standard is nearly always good but I have been to most of the Northern tracks.

In terms of staking, at the start of each season flat & jumps I reset the bank to 1000pts.
My maximum bet would be 10% of the start bank & the minimum 1%, the average bet is around 30pts or 3%. It wouldn't increase or decrease as the bank goes up or down it would stay the same for the season.
At the end of the season the bank is reset either up or down & it all starts again.
Betting this way if you are sucessful allows the bank to grow steadly till you arrive at your "choke point" this is the level where your maximum bet is the most you are prepared to stake.
At this point you bet to this level & even if your bank increases you do not up the stakes

Selection wise I tend to follow the same pattern year in year out, I know the races I like & the ones I don't.
I use the reverse selection process, looking to see why a horse can't win, if I can't chuck it out it goes on the shortlist. Sometimes I will back more than one in a race, it depends on the odds.
I always take a price & most of the time I better or equal the SP.
I still mainly go for the win single but will go ew or for a forcast or the odd multiple bet from time to time.

ATB.
John (Rio)

12-11-2007, 13:59	#25 (permalink)
whoneedsrio Horse & Footie Punter Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 1,540	Re: ATR - Who are we? Must be my turn then. I'm John & in late February next year I shall knock up the half century I've always liked watching the horse racing, I can remember watching Grandstand in black & white in the 60's with my Dad & trying to pick the winner. He was never into gambling, other than a couple of lines on the pools so I can't blame him for my interest. When I left school in 1974 I started as an apprentice printer, one of the printers liked a bet & on most Saturday mornings we worked over, I'd pick three out & Vic would put them in a round robin. One Saturday he says "what we got"? I showed him my three picks. "Theres that crackerjack Irish horse in that race" he says so I dropped my choice & picked another. Of course the sub gets beat, the other two win at decent odds & my original choice turns over the Crackerjack At first I was more into the jumps, this was the time of Night Nurse, Monksfield & the horse that was, still is & probably always will be my favourite Sea Pigeon, twice champion hurdler & the best handicapper on the flat that ever walked the planet. Over the years though I became more interested in the flat to such an extent that during the 90's I bet very little over the sticks. Like most I staked small on yankees etc for a good few years till the late 80's. By now I'd started working shifts which is where the money was in printing. I'd saved up a betting bank & started betting mainly in win singles. 1987 was a breakthough year for me, I kept a record of my bets & made a profit, that was the year Mtoto won the first of his two Eclipse's. Things continued pretty much in the same vein till around 1999. I moved house that year & as part of the new mortgage I had to open a current account, so there I was with a seperate debit card. I'd had a little dabble with the odd internet bet but now I could stick my betting money in there & keep it apart from the normal account & it's very rare I go in a betting shop now. When it falls right for my shift pattern I do go racing, mainly to York where the standard is nearly always good but I have been to most of the Northern tracks. In terms of staking, at the start of each season flat & jumps I reset the bank to 1000pts. My maximum bet would be 10% of the start bank & the minimum 1%, the average bet is around 30pts or 3%. It wouldn't increase or decrease as the bank goes up or down it would stay the same for the season. At the end of the season the bank is reset either up or down & it all starts again. Betting this way if you are sucessful allows the bank to grow steadly till you arrive at your "choke point" this is the level where your maximum bet is the most you are prepared to stake. At this point you bet to this level & even if your bank increases you do not up the stakes Selection wise I tend to follow the same pattern year in year out, I know the races I like & the ones I don't. I use the reverse selection process, looking to see why a horse can't win, if I can't chuck it out it goes on the shortlist. Sometimes I will back more than one in a race, it depends on the odds. I always take a price & most of the time I better or equal the SP. I still mainly go for the win single but will go ew or for a forcast or the odd multiple bet from time to time. ATB. John (Rio)