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Nade · 04-05-2008, 18:53

Not sure whether this should be in strategy or not but thought not as showing the whole hand ...

Table #7732170 - Port Douglas
Starting Hand #390679208
Last Hand #390677868
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.50/$1
Button is at seat 2
Seat 1: 27Nade - $194.27
Seat 2: onepunch - $97
Seat 3: whatawhata - $107.44
Seat 4: lasstar - $53.25
Seat 5: SMOKEYJOE666 - $14.66
Seat 6: Bea1860 - $145.95
Moving Button to seat 3
lasstar posts small blind ($0.50)
SMOKEYJOE666 posts big blind ($1)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [As Qc] to 27Nade

Bea1860 calls $1
27Nade raises to $4
onepunch calls $4
whatawhata folds
lasstar folds
SMOKEYJOE666 folds
Bea1860 folds

Dealing Flop [Tc Qd Qs]

27Nade bets $5
onepunch calls $5

Dealing Turn [Td]

27Nade checks
onepunch bets $14
27Nade calls $14

Dealing River [Ks]

27Nade bets $15
onepunch raises to $74 (all-in)

whatawhata laughs out loud.
27Nade: wow
27Nade: QK?
lasstar is thinking.
27Nade folds
Taking Rake of $3 from pot 1
onepunch doesn't show
onepunch wins $75.50
whatawhata cheers.
Seat 1: 27Nade - $156.27
Seat 2: onepunch - $134.50
Seat 3: whatawhata - $107.44
Seat 4: lasstar - $52.75
Seat 5: SMOKEYJOE666 - $13.66
Seat 6: Bea1860 - $144.95
End Of Hand #390679208

Right, seems like an odd post maybe ... But i'm just wondering whether it's +EV to call this everytime no matter the opponent?

To piece this together my thoughts through the hand are:

Flop - Bet out to disguise the trips as i always cont. bet.
- He calls - could have a few hands but he's a very tight, solid player who doesn't get into tricky situations so i think he's caught a piece of it.

Turn - I check to represent a missed hand and get the bet like im expecting but don't re-raise as looking to value bet a river, but expecting a chopped pot. He floated me on the turn, which went through my mind so i was waiting to see what his reaction was on the river.

River - Standard bet from me but he goes AI and my only conclusion is KQ.

He's a very solid player as i say so i can safely put him on one of 3 hands - AQ, KQ, TT. Don't think he would call with QJ and would re-raise with KK/AA. So thinking about this as the time ran down i hated it but had to fold ...

It all just fits KQ perfectly ... the call pre flop, the call on the flop to disguise his hand he thinks, then the bet out on the turn which could look like a bit of a bluff as near a pot bet then the AI on the river clinches it for me. This player wouldn't go AI with just a Q as they're smart - They know i'm only going to call with a Q thus splitting the pot ... So they haven't just gone in with a Q but some sick mofo of a monster hand ....

I think ...

.... Do others think i'm mad then for folding ?

(He never talks so got no confirmation of his hand)

04-05-2008, 18:53	#1 (permalink)
Nade Enigma Join Date: 27 Mar 2007 Age: 21 Posts: 2,600 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	To call or not to call... Not sure whether this should be in strategy or not but thought not as showing the whole hand ... Table #7732170 - Port Douglas Starting Hand #390679208 Last Hand #390677868 Game Type: HOLD'EM Limit Type: NO LIMIT Table Type: RING Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.50/$1 Button is at seat 2 Seat 1: 27Nade - $194.27 Seat 2: onepunch - $97 Seat 3: whatawhata - $107.44 Seat 4: lasstar - $53.25 Seat 5: SMOKEYJOE666 - $14.66 Seat 6: Bea1860 - $145.95 Moving Button to seat 3 lasstar posts small blind ($0.50) SMOKEYJOE666 posts big blind ($1) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [As Qc] to 27Nade Bea1860 calls $1 27Nade raises to $4 onepunch calls $4 whatawhata folds lasstar folds SMOKEYJOE666 folds Bea1860 folds Dealing Flop [Tc Qd Qs] 27Nade bets $5 onepunch calls $5 Dealing Turn [Td] 27Nade checks onepunch bets $14 27Nade calls $14 Dealing River [Ks] 27Nade bets $15 onepunch raises to $74 (all-in) whatawhata laughs out loud. 27Nade: wow 27Nade: QK? lasstar is thinking. 27Nade folds Taking Rake of $3 from pot 1 onepunch doesn't show onepunch wins $75.50 whatawhata cheers. Seat 1: 27Nade - $156.27 Seat 2: onepunch - $134.50 Seat 3: whatawhata - $107.44 Seat 4: lasstar - $52.75 Seat 5: SMOKEYJOE666 - $13.66 Seat 6: Bea1860 - $144.95 End Of Hand #390679208 Right, seems like an odd post maybe ... But i'm just wondering whether it's +EV to call this everytime no matter the opponent? To piece this together my thoughts through the hand are: Flop - Bet out to disguise the trips as i always cont. bet. - He calls - could have a few hands but he's a very tight, solid player who doesn't get into tricky situations so i think he's caught a piece of it. Turn - I check to represent a missed hand and get the bet like im expecting but don't re-raise as looking to value bet a river, but expecting a chopped pot. He floated me on the turn, which went through my mind so i was waiting to see what his reaction was on the river. River - Standard bet from me but he goes AI and my only conclusion is KQ. He's a very solid player as i say so i can safely put him on one of 3 hands - AQ, KQ, TT. Don't think he would call with QJ and would re-raise with KK/AA. So thinking about this as the time ran down i hated it but had to fold ... It all just fits KQ perfectly ... the call pre flop, the call on the flop to disguise his hand he thinks, then the bet out on the turn which could look like a bit of a bluff as near a pot bet then the AI on the river clinches it for me. This player wouldn't go AI with just a Q as they're smart - They know i'm only going to call with a Q thus splitting the pot ... So they haven't just gone in with a Q but some sick mofo of a monster hand .... I think ... .... Do others think i'm mad then for folding ? (He never talks so got no confirmation of his hand)